Kim: In these cases it is just outrageous and ¦¡ but in some cases ¦¡ for example, in the medical profession ¦¡ it's a serious business because doctors have to carry such expensive malpractice insurance. They're afraid ¦¡ they're terrified of misdiagnosing or ¦¡ I mean, they're humans. They're doing the best they possibly can do, and occasionally, one time out of a hundred, one time ¦¡ whatever, they may make a mistake. And not only, of course, do they have to deal with the mistake that they've made; now they have to deal with this huge lawsuit.
Jeff: Right.