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Andree: Did you see him in performance here?
Kim: I didn't see him. I've seen him in the States two or three times and I have to say, he's always a bit disappointing on stage.
Andree: Really?
Kim: He doesn't have a lot of stage presence. He just kind of gets up there and does his thing. And, you know, I want lots of banter and everything, but no, he just gets up there and does it. And so...
Andree: Really? I've heard this as well but apparently this time it was... it was a great improvement over previous concerts. So...
Kim: Sorry I missed it.
Jerome: How about the quality of the music? How does he do compared to his albums?
Kim: Yeah, that's another very good question and a disappointing thing, I have to say, also at his concerts I, sometimes I think that if you didn't know the songs in advance really, really well, you wouldn't be able to recognize what he was playing because I don't think he likes to play the same song the same way twice. And often he gets up there with a different backup band, and it's a rock version of something that used to be just a slow acoustic number. So I think he likes to confuse his -- challenge his audience.
Andree: And maybe he does it so as not to bore himself.
Kim: Yes. Yeah, maybe so.
Andree: How about The Rolling Stones? I was thinking... I just heard The Rolling Stones today somewhere, and it's hard to believe Mick Jagger is 50 or 51. They're going on another world tour. I mean, it's unbelievable. These guys are incredible.
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