K: No, that stuff has always been kind of a hobby for me, but recently I decided that I should properly train my voice, because when I was younger, I was singing all the time, and I've always been what is called a lazy singer. My voice is rather low, and I'm quite comfortable singing in a low range, but any professional music person who's heard me sing has said, "Actually, Kim, your voice is not low. Your singing voice is much higher. You're just not using your voice properly!" And for years I struggled and said, "No, no, no. I don't want to sing that way because it's too difficult." But I get frustrated when I can't sing a full range that I have the potential to. So... so... I found myself a classical opera coach...(laugh)
V: Wow.
J: Opera?
K: Well, that's classical singing. I mean, that's proper singing, right?